i would have to say now that practically every has one what do you think this will means for situations at bethel, will more and more get wise that the governing body are just conmen?
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i think things are already very unsettling with all the leaked private information from so many sectors of the watchtower corporation's confidential stuff on the internet to me bespeaks something major is in the works back there in the spiritual pair dice..
Think about it what IT guy could the Governing Body ever hope to impress into their service to censor information access in their behalf and expect them to remain loyal to assign bull shit directives the odd are pretty slim.
Governing Body's next move in this is rather unpredictable but I say a witch hunt to find leakers and enlist some outside organization sworn to secrecy except with some type legal clauses.
i would have to say now that practically every has one what do you think this will means for situations at bethel, will more and more get wise that the governing body are just conmen?
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i think things are already very unsettling with all the leaked private information from so many sectors of the watchtower corporation's confidential stuff on the internet to me bespeaks something major is in the works back there in the spiritual pair dice..
These leaks could just as well have come from the internet IT guys housed at headquarters who infected it with a virus to spy on them,,, the possibilities are beyond any dim witted Governing Body/faith bull shit slave could comprehend.
i would have to say now that practically every has one what do you think this will means for situations at bethel, will more and more get wise that the governing body are just conmen?
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i think things are already very unsettling with all the leaked private information from so many sectors of the watchtower corporation's confidential stuff on the internet to me bespeaks something major is in the works back there in the spiritual pair dice..
I would have to say now that practically every has one what do you think this will means for situations at Bethel, will more and more get wise that the Governing Body are just conmen?
I think things are already very unsettling with all the leaked private information from so many sectors of the Watchtower corporation's confidential stuff on the internet to me bespeaks something major is in the works back there in the spiritual pair dice.
he is the highest rank catholic to cop this in australia .
his case was suppressed for some time but now is public ,.
the news is just breaking on tv he has right of appeal still denying guilt.
True feelings are hard to get to, I had a very hard time with my father harsh treatment of me as1 year old(1953) old due to post traumatic stress of 1950s NK conflict with the US. Needless to say after fighting in that war it left him a little disabled into be a loving father and a little heavy on the physical abuse side when dealing with stress.
he is the highest rank catholic to cop this in australia .
his case was suppressed for some time but now is public ,.
the news is just breaking on tv he has right of appeal still denying guilt.
Wozza, you have my sympathy life is not fair period.... Are you getting any help in how to process these feeling? No need to answer if you feel uncomfortable, finding a good therapy is important to acknowledge your feelings and placing them in a productive space in the psyche wish you the best my friend.
jehovah’s witnesses hunted down and deported.. https://bitterwinter.org/jehovahs-witnesses-hunted-down-and-deported/.
You get no boo hoo hoo from me for the poor persecuted Christian's that have to leave, it is just a fact of life and life goes on. Russia and China think alike on this issue although Russia's a tad more aggressive, I ain't getting my panties in a twist over it that's for sure.
I know I'm heartless sometimes that is a side of me I'm starting to love, why waste emotional pain of caring for every thing that is considered bad by some because of the way they view the world(subjectively). While wishing no harm to people and their sad deportation, and I hope they find better a better life elsewhere, this is a minor thing of importance, it only stresses I think the less aggressive stand of China. When you base everything from a religious tolerance point of view you become very bias on what you let into consciousness.
he is the highest rank catholic to cop this in australia .
his case was suppressed for some time but now is public ,.
the news is just breaking on tv he has right of appeal still denying guilt.
jehovah’s witnesses hunted down and deported.. https://bitterwinter.org/jehovahs-witnesses-hunted-down-and-deported/.
I think you got to look at government as a business to successfully manage people for profitability on the land they claim ownership of with force if necessary so it should be of no surprise if it reacts in this way to get rid of a public pest and not cause too much concern to the world community in their business model which what make some more aggressive in dealing with this matter than some other government's business model. At least that's the way I see it and welcome rebuttal ,
he is the highest rank catholic to cop this in australia .
his case was suppressed for some time but now is public ,.
the news is just breaking on tv he has right of appeal still denying guilt.
I don't think they will over turn the conviction and I don't think he is innocent, he has been molesting boys since the 60's before he was a priest I really feel he is guilty.
Gerald Ridsdale
Pell served as an assistant priest at St Alipius' Church in Ballarat East and, in 1973, shared a house with Gerald Ridsdale, a priest who was later defrocked and jailed for child sex crimes.[153][162] Ridsdale was convicted between 1993 and 2017 of a very large number of child sexual abuse and indecent assault charges against children aged as young as four years during the 1970s and 1980s, the total number of known victims standing at 79, but that is thought to be a small proportion of his victims.[163][164][165][166] Pell was part of a leadership group of Catholic priests in the Diocese of Ballarat that met during 1982 and discussed moving Ridsdale from the parish at Mortlake and sending him to Sydney.[167] Pell denied knowing about any of Ridsdale's actions.[168] Journalist and former priest Paul Bongiorno, who also lived in a presbytery with Ridsdale told ABC radio that Ridsdale concealed his activities: "They hide it. It was certainly hidden from me. And when it came out, after I’d left the priesthood, I was shocked and I was ashamed."
In March 2016, when asked by the Royal Commission why he had agreed to walk Ridsdale into the courthouse in Melbourne during his 1993 criminal trial, Pell responded, "I had some status as an auxiliary bishop and I was asked to appear with the ambition that this would lessen the term of punishment, lessen his time in jail." Peter Saunders, the victims' advocate and a former Catholic priest, said that this Pell response "demonstrates once again the callousness, the coldheartedness and the contempt that George Pell appears to display for this whole issue and particularly for the victims of these dreadful crimes."[170]
In 2002 on 60 Minutes, Pell was accused by David Ridsdale, a victim of child sex abuse in Ballarat and the nephew of Gerald Ridsdale, of attempting to bribe him in 1993 in order to prevent the abuse being made public.[22] Minchin's anti-Pell song "Come Home (Cardinal Pell)" repeated the allegation.[171] The allegation was examined at the royal commission and received further wide publicity.[172][173] However, Counsel-Assisting Gail Furness conceded in her final submission to the royal commission that, given it was already known to Pell that Gerald Ridsdale was subject to police investigation, and David Ridsdale had requested a "private" rather than police process "it is not likely that Bishop Pell would then have thought it necessary to offer Mr Ridsdale an inducement to prevent him from going to the police or public with his allegations", and Ridsdale could have "misinterpreted Bishop Pell's offer of assistance".[22]
2002 allegation
In June 2002, Pell was accused by a Melbourne man of having sexually abused a 12-year-old boy at a Catholic youth camp in 1961, whilst he was a young seminarian. Pell denied the accusations and stood aside while the inquiry continued.[174] The complainant agreed to pursue his allegations through the church's own process for dealing with allegations of sexual misconduct, the National Committee for Professional Standards. Retired Victorian Supreme Court Justice Alec Southwell, appointed Commissioner by the church to investigate the matter, found that the complainant, despite his long criminal record, had mostly given the impression of "speaking honestly from actual recollection" but concluded as follows: "bearing in mind the forensic difficulties of the defence occasioned by the very long delay, some valid criticism of the complainant's credibility, the lack of corroborative evidence and the sworn denial of the respondent, I find I am not 'satisfied that the complaint has been established'".[175][176] Pell said he had been exonerated, while the complainant's solicitor said his client had been vindicated.[176]
Victoria Police investigations
In March 2013, Victoria Police launched "Operation Tethering", to investigate whether Pell had committed unreported crimes.[177] On 20 February 2016, the Herald Sun newspaper reported that Pell had been under investigation for the past year by detectives from the Victoria Police SANO Taskforce over sexual abuse allegations involving between five and ten boys that occurred between 1978 and 2001 when he was a priest in Ballarat and when archbishop of Melbourne.[178] His office issued a public statement denying the allegations calling them "utterly false" and asked for an inquiry into the leaking of information by Victoria Police officers to the media.[178] Victoria Police remained silent on whether Pell was being investigated.[178] The SANO Taskforce was established in 2012 to investigate allegations arising from the Victorian Government Inquiry into the Handling of Child Abuse by Religious and other Organisations and the subsequent Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Sexual Abuse.[178][179]
On 28 July 2016, the Chief Commissioner of Victoria Police, Graham Ashton, confirmed that there was an investigation into alleged child sexual abuse by Pell following a report by the ABC's 7.30 program the previous day and stated that he was awaiting advice from the Director of Public Prosecutions (DPP).[180][181][182] On 17 August 2016, Victoria Police confirmed a response had been received from the DPP, but would not disclose the DPP's recommendations.[183]
In October 2016, three Victoria Police officers from the SANO Task Force flew to Rome to interview Pell, who voluntarily participated, regarding allegations of sexual assault.[184] In February 2017, Victoria Police advised that the brief of evidence against Pell for sexual assault allegations had been returned to the Office of Public Prosecutions for review with advice subsequently provided to Victoria Police in May 2017.[185][186]
he is the highest rank catholic to cop this in australia .
his case was suppressed for some time but now is public ,.
the news is just breaking on tv he has right of appeal still denying guilt.
